Contact Us Anytime!

Email is IdahoOutbackGriffons@gmail.com or
Home phone is 208-532-4822
Cell phone or text is 208-300-0096.
Thanks Christy and Elliott Owen
83 East 700 North Rupert, Idaho 83350

Tuesday, March 31, 2020

2 litters pending!!!!

Hi All, I have been more than a little lame with pictures and posts of late..... never fear, the craziness is soon to ensue.  We are expecting Brave bred to Buddy to deliver around April 7th.  Promise bred to Ridge should whelp around the 17th of April.  We have a big wait list for the spring born pups, more availability for Fall born pups.  Email me for details. 
But if you would like to help me out, send me an email with your name suggestions. Two categories, 1st hunting/ outdoors inspired names.  I do not use names twice, or try not to, so clever and unusual is more potentially a name I can use.  Obviously I have been naming hunting dog puppies for literally years now.   2nd  Last name names
Send them to my email if you dont mind, I want everyone to be surprised. 
IDAHOOUTBACKGriffons@gmail.com

Monday, February 17, 2020

Only the Best Pups this Spring, fingers crossed.

CH Roughriders Prairie Storm Budweiser MH
NAVDA Hall of Fame recipient 2017 and and he is a gentleman to boot.  Only the best for you guys!

Buddy

AKC Champion

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A Griffon worth replicating!

Saturday, February 15, 2020

Romance and Best Laid Plans

I always marvel at Mother Nature.  If we had a Pit Bull curr cross that was 6 months old she would somehow get bred to the neighbors dalmation cross through chain link fence :]  But try to get 2 perfectly matched, tested, and healthy beautiful purebreds together and wait for the tribulation. 
Our first match planned was planned as Liberty X Chrome.  That said I had a back up plan in case "the old man"  didn't feel up to it.  It was obvious to me that it is time to retire my handsome Chrome, and the testosterone pumped 2 year old made up for lack of finesse with a lot of eager participation. 
So Ridge was bred to Liberty.
Next we drove 11 hours to breed Brave to Buddy.  He is a NAVDA Hall of Fame winner.  Which means he has proven himself to be a superb hunting dog in every testable venue.  This breeding has been on the burner for 2 years now. Finally the timing was perfect.   Buddy had no issues, and was all business, while Brave really wanted a little more Romance.  So I  had to coax her to stay in the game, 3 days in lovely California, trying to avoid some snow storms at home.  And all is well. 
I had said that if Promise would cycle off these 2 I would breed her in the Spring instead of the Fall.   She is in perfect condition, and I can happily say that Ridge was very happy to oblige and we have crossed Promise to Ridge. 
We will confirm pregnancies at roughly 6 weeks or so weeks into the pregnancy.   I can not wait to see these beautiful spring pups. 
I suspect there may be some available past my current waitlist, particularly if you are interested in either gender.  Once again I can never out guess the gender distribution.  Send me an email and I am happy to let you know our system here, costs, and future plans.  I love to talk to folks about Griffons.  email is IdahoOutbackGriffons@gmail.com

Saturday, February 1, 2020

Outback's Ridge Line

Outback's Ridge Line is busy this week , breeding 2 females.  He favors his AKC Champion Dad CH SAGE RIDGE JEBEDIAH OF ENFIELD  His health tests all are great!  Pups in a couple months.  

Ridge



Outback's Ridge Line

Tuesday, December 31, 2019

Growth Plates and Exercise

This link is science backed.  Exactly how my mind works.  It lays to rest some of the recent garbage about exercise and puppies.  Common sense should prevail.  https://www.mylamedog.com/post/what-is-the-logic-behind-not-exercising-puppies-until-the-growth-plates-are-closed

Tuesday, November 19, 2019

Wednesday, October 9, 2019

Justice X Chrome Royce only male

Royce , when you only have sisters you like to go hunting... by yourself!  A sweet pup, gentle, cuddler.


Royce medium coat

Sunday, July 21, 2019

Saturday, July 20, 2019

Promises Promises


Promise is a  Hope X Guss


Promise

Chrome

Outback's He's Got Chrome
Chrome not too bad for an 8 year old STUD!

Outback's Quail Ridge



Ridge



Here are some current photo's of Ridge.  His dad is Ch. Sage Ridge Jebediah of Enfield
Thanks to Jim & Colleen Reiss for letting us breed to Outback's You Cant Handle the Truth.  He has been an easy train in the field, we have had him behind some very seasoned dogs, and he has earned his place in the pickup already.  We just completed Snake aversion with him, and we are beginning to do some health clearances on him as well.  We expect him to sire some exceptional bird dogs.  He is calm, and a little stoic, things just don't get him too riled.  A super nice characteristic in a young dog.  Strong swimmer.  We really like him and his coat continues to fill and improve, nicely harsh, easy manage.  

Tuesday, July 2, 2019

Towser just had Rattle Snake aversion training!

Towser was 1 of about 25 dogs doing rattle snake aversion A couple other Grffons there too.  He was the most handsome for sure!

Towser Chrome x Honor pup

Tuesday, June 18, 2019

The Griff Gang



Justice, her daughter Chapel, Hope's daughter Promise, Chrome,  True's daughter Brave, Liberty and Glory's daughter Hope.
Quite the legacy sitting as pretty as a picture!

Saturday, May 4, 2019

Yeti and Paul Wick

Yeti and Paul out for a road trip.  Griff's are the BEST!!!!

Saturday, January 19, 2019

Hunting with the Wounded Warriors

This is Bonsai, one of the stud dogs we use, as well as Reno, a Rose x Chrome female.  Enjoy a lot of bird  action that day.  Thanks to Mike Okamura, handling, training, owner.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bmApu5lDFdeqp65dVFa6cAUYNEajz_fB/view?fbclid=IwAR258p6NWChdaxczlStsypN-ZnUkwkO-2qse24NealY6U0k73lFNe73_cCc
Bonsai

Thursday, January 17, 2019

Face Book Page Rose & Chrome

Hi I just sent out invites for the Closed Group called Rose & Chrome.  It is a group totally devoted to people who own Outback bred pups.  It was created so we can share our puppies, and birthdays, stay in contact, reach out with problems. or suggestions.  I encourage everyone to accept the invitation then actively share your pictures.  if you have never previously posted there, please post a picture of your Griffon their name, and add the litter or parents they came from so siblings can see each other.  Plus lots of us only know the pup by it's name coming from our house so include that too.  Have fun.  Pictures on their way. 

Saturday, January 12, 2019

The story of the SAles Man and the Griffs

So all the Griffons were out running about the yard.  Our Main UPS driver brings treats all the time, so the dogs are particularly excited when a Van pulls up.  So it was roughly 11 AM and I was doing normal chores inside, when I hear the doorbell.  I dont have a fancy doorbell at the gate, it is attached to the house as most are.  I was amazed, because the dogs had not barked, so I hustled to the door... to see a cheerful Vacuum salesman.  A gentleman roughly 60 or so, I would guess.  I welcomed him and his paraphernalia inside the house.  And there we stopped.  I congratulated him for making the journey to the door, and said that any sales person who passed the 7 adult Griffon test had certainly earned a bit of my time.  He said he can tell good dogs from their eyes and demeanor.
I did not however buy a vacuum, that said I invite visitors, I love to show the gang off. 

Thursday, January 10, 2019

Crate Training

Here is a link to an article about crate training.  At our place I use the crate as a safe place.  The dogs all have their own crate. I have inside and outside crates depending on the weather.  They love them. At anytime I can yell.....haha say kennel and all dogs head to their crate.  Thus no matter what they are doing mischievous or not, they head to their spot.  This helps when the unexpected neighbor passes in and she doesnt really love dogs. 
At night I say time for bed, well then everyone lines up to go to their personal bed kennel.  If I leave them outside too long, they look in the window asking to be put in their bedroom.  The same kennels are used for travel,  some of the gang can be trusted at home alone, but some are best crated for their own safety if I go to town. 
The puppies are started very early in crates.  There is always a gateless crate left in with them so they get used to sleeping in  a crate from a young age.  http://info.drsophiayin.com/crate-training-handout

Friday, January 4, 2019

Too much Calcium can be bad for a puppy

http://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2017/02/confused-about-what-to-feed-your-large-breed-puppy-new-rules-may-help/
When Chrome was little and his mature weight is about 68 #s.  The Veterinarian warned me his joints were potentially outgrowing his body.  Ultimately this can cause looser joints at maturity.  I would prescribe to the thought that a large breed puppy is a puppy that matures at 50#s.  As I always council, keep your puppy thinner rather than fat, and use an appropriate diet for your large breed puppy. 
Tufts also has several articles about grain free foods.  Apparently some of these foods lack adequate Taurine, which has been linked to DCM and dogs.  Food For Thought!!!

Monday, December 3, 2018

First Day of December

Justice
 GC Boot Legger X CH Thistle
Justice



Brave
CH Sage Ridge Jebb X Outbacks's You Cant Handle The Truth

Brave

Brave
Liberty
Liberty
GCH Boot Legger X CH Curry

Liberty

Hope
Outback's Brown Chrome x Outbacks Grll Glorius


Hope

Hope


True
Bonzi x Rose
Prommise

Promise
Guss X Hope
Chrome Aux Lake bred, CH parents 

Chrome

Jaegar

Jaegar
I love the elements of this photo

GOALS

Goals
here at Idaho Outack Griffons

My philosophy is to produce a puppyat the height of his potential. We start by carefully selecting our breeding
stock. I like to use health screened animals that gives us the best chance toproduce a healthy, long lived dog.

My second goal is to raise our dogs like ahouse hold pet as well as a hunting companion and a best freind for my boys. I
never have more than 5 dogs on the place, it is all I can bond to properly. WE Co-Own with freinds, so other dogs in our breeding program have their own family life.

All the puppies are raised off my kitchen and are handled from day one. There was a great study done by the monks who raise quality German Shepherds. They discovered techniques all of which involve early handling and human interaction. They were able to create more adjusted and
trainable adult animals. So once they begin crawling about they are underfoot, placed all day in the center of the action where even a crowd can't get ignored.

Weather permitting they are kenneled at night and taught
about grass or paper in the house. I love vari kennels they are excellent astheir den and as a tool in house training and transporting. We start introducing them at an early age to water, wings, and all sorts of exploring.

Lastly I want to retain the natural hunting abilities so all our
breeding animals hunt and are close range dogs. Though we do not participate in the local NAVDA groups these dogs would do well in that venue. This is a wonderful organization that gives you a way to test both your dogs natural abilities and your developing handling skills. AKC has some great opportunities
in confirmation but also has obedience and working dog competitions. I can't wait for someone to take one of these guys through an agility course, I think they could sweep this sort of thing, and maybe one day when my family is a little older I will try this myself. My high point is getting the right puppy to the right folks, we work so much with them we know their personalities, and make it our goal for you to know your puppy by the time he arrives.

Rose X Chrome adult snaps

Rose X Chrome adult snaps
Their name plus Outback kennel call name bottom

Duck Rabbit... Buffalo


Buffalo Dog FOOD what the ????
I am asked
what I feed my dogs all the time. I
happen to be from the Veterinary Industry and have had the opportunity to tour
several of the manufacturers of pet food.
I have also had extensive training on a lot of assorted diet lines. You all know I am practical and have an
opinion popular or not on everything in dog world. Here are my musings.

A long LONG time
ago there was an ad campaign from Hill’s Science Diet that showed a photo of an
old leather boot a can of oil and some other assorted items I can’t remember
but I remember the image. It also showed
a pile of meat on the other side. The ad
then stated the protein and fat content of each side…. Exactly the same. Message there was clear not all ingredients
are not all the same. I also remember
another ad that asked you how much a pound meat was then asked how much per
pound dog food was in the store. Message
here what kind of meat can you expect in a pound of dog food that costs say .50
per pound as a finished product.
So that said
my dogs do not eat steak every day nor do I.
They have a unique non human digestive system that enables them to take
energy from both protein sources and vegtable sources as well of course as
vitamins and minerals. Great strides
have been taken in pet food, and many good diets contain EFAs, glucosamines, antioxidants,
natural preservatives, no food colors… etc.
LOVE IT!
But do I buy
the trendy new dog foods that are touted all natural “WILD” “Buffalo” “BLUE”
and more. They claim they have something
over the other foods available. Just
because your dogs food is made from Kangaroo meat… this does not make the
protein source more digestable or preferable.
IN fact the over use of non traditional protein sources has now made
finding a truly food allergic animal a diet they haven’t been exposed to a
nightmare. Don’t get me wrong, I could
care less if you feed duck and potato, but I don’t think there is an advantage
unless it is medically indicated because of a digestive cause, skin allergy or
the like.
I do believe
in purchasing higher quality foods, by well known manufacturers like Purina,
Iams, Hills, Royal Canin. They do their
research. They use the highest quality protein
sources…. Stuff you and I would readily eat ourselves. They are the leaders in additives that
promote health and long lividness. Don’t
forget way less excrement with a highly digestable food that leaves smaller
less smelly piles about the yard. Also a
Griff coat on a diet with adequate fats is heavy and healthy and not quite but
almost shiny. Don’t buy the cheapest
stuff you can and don’t be drug into the trendy side either. Use a large breed active blend. Or if your dog is chunky … shame on you… he
won’t live as long… get him on an over weight diet and quit feeding him the
other stuff.

Griff Humor

Griff Humor
Griffon Humor

Parasites YUCK

Whether you may know it or not all puppies get parasites from their momma's milk. Momma gets it from cleaning up the feces of the puppies for the first few weeks. This is a normal mother nature thing that all animals do. Below I have a link to common parasites the puppies will get and get treated for while with me. Remember these parasites are not covered under my health guarantee because sometimes no matter how many times I treat my puppies for these they could still have them. I take a sample of puppy feces to my vet to be tested when the puppies have their vet check. I usually take 2-3 samples with me. But just because 2 or 3 samples may not have it doesn't mean all the puppies don't. And both of these parasites below have incubation periods. So they may leave my house clear and free but have the egg in their system for the worms or coccidia. I tell everyone when they take their puppy home take their puppy to their vet with in 5 days. Take a sample of their feces to the vet to be tested and do it again a week after the vet visit. Until puppies are completely away from their siblings and the other fecal matter in the puppy area they are not clear from catching these parasites. Coccidia link:http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1622&aid=727Worms in puppies: http://www.the-puppy-dog-place.com/puppy-worms.htmlhttp://www.ehow.com/about_4740383_worms-in-puppies.htmlIt is very important that you take your puppy for all their preventive shots during the first 4 months of their lives. Parvo is the main thing can kill puppies. All dogs can be carriers but it kills puppies and older dogs. link below is on Parvo.http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1556&aid=467It is also important that you get your dog's heart worm medicine in states indicated by your veterinarians The heartworm is transmitted during the mosquito life cycle. May through October. Or year round if the mosquito possibly can live through your winter. Also every dog needs a rabies shot the first one is good for one year and then they get 3 year rabies shot.

Puppy Heart Murmurs

My Blog is designed to address the needs of my Griff owners and help them be educated in their chosen hobby. Griffons can be afflicted with a heart murmur and I want you to have a chance to know the condition and understand the outcome on affected puppies. I myself in 26 years of breeding dogs have had about 6 puppies develop heart murmurs by their 6th week check up. All but 1 of these puppies have been considered innocent and went on to live uneventful lives. Unknown cause that clears up completely on their own by 18 to 21 weeks. One puppy named Pearl, was physically impacted by this congenital condition. We identified her before she left my place. Ultimately she lived a joyful but shortened lifespan. This is an article from the Magazine Bulldog world Heart Murmurs in Puppies Home The heart operates with a pump like action. Divided into four chambers-right atrium, right ventricle, left atrium, left ventricle-the heart has four valves that work to keep blood flowing in one direction. The valves open and close, letting blood in and then pumping it out. That sound is created from the movement of the valves and the flowing of the blood.The sound a murmur makes depends on when it occurs in the cardiac cycle.Correct auscultation of a puppy's heart at less than 8 weeks of age may reveal a heart murmur. This does not necessarily mean that there is a disease process occurring; however, it may.


To define a heart murmur, an often used example is the vibration felt, and the subsequent sound you hear, when you pinch a garden hose between your fingers with the tap fully turned on. What is heard when listening to the heart is a slurring of the normally distinct heart sounds. This may be a continuous slurring, or it may be intermittent at the point of each beat heard.Heart murmurs are graded by intensity of sound, for instance on a scale of 1 to 6. It is not infrequent that one may hear a grade 1 or 2 heart murmurs in a 6-10 week old puppy. Often these murmurs disappear by the time the puppy is 12-18 weeks old, and are therefore termed innocent murmurs. However, murmurs with a greater intensity may mean that there is a congenital heart defect. Most grade 2 or lower will disappear by 18 weeks and the puppy will be fine with no long term or damaging effects. The puppy would be considered healthy and normal by 18 weeks. However, grade 3 usually or higher is a serious problem.cardiac ultrasound exam is by far the most effective method of evaluating heart murmurs, I'd skip things like EKGs to get the ultrasound Exam, if a choice has to be made between tests.


A puppy at 8-12 weeks with grade 1 or 2 heart murmur would be considered innocent with the sale pending a clean bill of health by 18 weeks, free of murmur, (NOW GRADE 3 OR HIGHER WOULD NOT).Because of the nature of many heart defects, their detection and classification is extremely important to any breeding program when a grade 3 or higher murmur is detected in more than 1 puppy or the whole litter has a murmur.

Griffon Humor

Griffon Humor

Submissive peeing Learn to Greet your puppy/ dog

I am going to write an article because one of our puppy buyers is having some issues with submissive peeing. First let's review the wolf pack that is the first family group of all dogs. In Dog language there are dominate and submissive pack members. In order to survive in the pack a dog shows submission to have access to food, get attention, and to be generally accepted in the family pack. The dominate dog will stare at the lower member, stand over them, perhaps put their mouth over the other dog even bite, growl, and generally be much bigger than the lowly pack member. For one moment think of yourself towering over your puppy reaching down from above and placing your hand on the top of their head. Seems very normal... but what if your puppy happens to be a rather submissive individual with little intestinal fortitude. The best way they can show how great and powerful you are is by peeing all over the floor and flopping to the ground. This is very annoying to all humans, not to mention a pain to clean up. Here is the good news, most dogs can be trained out of the behavior, and most dogs to a certain extent grow out of the behavior.
So now you know what the behavior is now what to do with this puppy. First off acceptance and attention is what they crave. There are a couple approaches to take, 1st just like children attention whether positive or negative is sought. Yelling and scolding makes submissive peeing more like submissive flooding. So here are some stratedgies no fuss, no drama, no high voice, no dominate postures, in fact this puppy needs to realize you have no interest in him at all during greetings. The greeting period is the number 1 time this problem happens so usually once the greeting phase is over you will minimize the behavior.
First option, from now on greeting is not about seeing and paying omage to you but is focused on a food treat. The puppy is taught to stand still waiting for a treat. The focus is pulled off the submissive greeting and now focused on a task. By the time the task is performed a few times the greeting phase is over. This has to happen from all members of the family.
2nd option, ignore the puppy, from now on you give the puppy not a second glance, no greeting, no voice, no attention, let the puppy settle down, get past that time period. Only reward calm and drama free behavior. I like to encourage them to stand quietly and allow a belly rub or an upward rub on the chest. Focus the puppy on staying upright as dogs rarely pee standing up. Keep in mind you are the ALPHA WOLF help your puppy have confidence, training puppy classes, and tasks give them a purpose that helps them be the adjusted dog they can be! See my next article where we will discuss excited peeing, which is related but not the same.

Avery a GLORY Chrome pup

Avery a GLORY Chrome pup

Liberty

Liberty
Chapel Hills's bred AKC CH Lines

True

true

True

true

True

true
7 months

Now and then

Now and then
8 week / adult

Feedback

Hi christy, Grif is doing awsome , i love hime so much . he still sleeps in my bed everynight ,thanks for teaching him that one , is doing great on the ducks and on pointing grouse. i am starting a outfitting service next fall will be doing black bear and moose and caribou . griff will be abel to go all the time . Have ben working remote jobs to bankrole the outtfitting gig . griff get so weird when im gone its funny he nocks the phone out of pams hands when the phone rings and i have to talk to him or he pouts .that dog is so smart . i want to get a female in the spring if it works out . Let me no on the pup . Im guiding elk hunts in townsed montana september threw november so will be own in your neck of the woods then .
take care Brent Harrington

olen hilliard
Hi, I can't believe he's almost a year old! Here are a couple pictures of ourcurious George. He's been a terrific addition to our family, given life to ourold dog and helped me log many miles. Both on foot and by horse. He loves tohunt, loves to go in the car and generally is a great dog around all. You canactually go hunting without a gun and still get live birds :) He also looksgreat with Reindeer antlers at Christmas.!We're hoping to finish the Canine Good Citizenship exam in April. He's readyand willing. Thanks for the terrific dog and I still love the dog name. Neverchanged it... sherrill & mark

Roy Kandi Chilcott
Hi Christy,Thistle, renamed Maggie, is getting along great! She is so smart! It's a lot of work but we are getting along great with potty & kennel training. She already sits by the door when she needs to go out! Amazing! Kandi

Ben Krupka
Hi Christy,Thanks for your advice the other day. Here's some recent pics of Frieda. All between the ages of 18 and 19 weeks old.She's a dream come true!Thanks,Ben

joy gates
Hey Christy- Just wanted to wish you a Happy New Year- love to hear about the other pups from Rose's litter. Hazel is a beauty. Her eye lashes are about an inch long, she's patient, so funny and very smart! She's a lap lover, woodland explorer and I'm very sure she has springs in her toes. She hasn't quite got the catching popcorn thing down, but with practice... :) Hope you are enjoying the season. We are, in great part to your contribution!

Michele L. Turek
Hello Christy,I just want to give you an up date on Sugar or Darla as we call her. She is doing great, very healthy and smart. We have a field near our house which she loves to run and practicing pointing. She easily learned bathroom duties, come, sit and down. We are taking her to puppy class next week for more training which is a positive praise model we've been using. If you attach a "good" or say a command with a happy attitude she takes right to it.I've attached some photos of her in action, resting and her favorite "look how good I sit" mode, so you can see how she's grown.
Thanks again for a great dog ,Michele & Colin

Toni Joseph
Hi Christy,That is so weird we were just checking your site the other day to see if you bred more recently!We are IN LOVE with Wren! He is a wonderful family dog so great with our kids! Sage is 5 and Wren is not his dog, he is his "scruffy brother!"Juniper is now one and she lays on his bed and hugs him always!He is so loyal to us and really needs us in his sight at all times..He is an excellent hunter, he flushed a ton of chukar last week and we are taking him out with no kids on friday! I am planning on getting some great pics I will send some over your way!We have done a lot of camping and fun hikes this recent summer and he is so much fun, he always stays close and he really listens when we call him etc.He is very healthy just shy of 60 pounds, and he is always happy!Thanks again he has really completed our family!Brian, Toni, Sage, Juniper & Wren Joseph