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Idaho Outback Wirehaired Pointing Griffon Puppies!
We live in the farmlands of Idaho. We are a family including 5 kids, animals, and always bird dogs. We have been owned by English Pointers, Setters and GSHs. Each earned a place in our hearts. Our ultimate bird dog would be an instinctual hunter, trainable, and mostly a great family dog and connected companion, with an easy care, low shedding coat. Now we can share our secret we found the package deal in the funny Griffon. Enjoy our pictures and stories. Christy and Elliott
Contact Us Anytime!
Home phone is 208-532-4822
Cell phone or text is 208-300-0096.
Thanks Christy and Elliott Owen
83 East 700 North Rupert, Idaho 83350
Tuesday, May 21, 2024
Thursday, April 4, 2024
The Breakfast Club 11 days old
Sunday, March 24, 2024
Faith X Towser Birth 3-24-2024
The Breakfast CLUB!
1 day old |
Girls |
1 day old |
Boys |
Buckwheat, Bear Claw, and Benedict
Monday, March 18, 2024
Pepper, Towser X Faith pup all grown up!
Pepper owned by Janet Hawkins, and photo credits her way as well. Pepper is the 2nd Outback Griffon Janet has procured from our kennel. Janet is an amateur photographer who lives in picturesque Jackson, Wyoming. She loves to take wildlife and scenic photos but adores photographing her 3 Musketeers... or as she likes to say Griffonteers.
Pepper has been a spitfire and took some real patience to get her through her teenage years, i.e. 10-to-14-month age range. But Janet calmly called me for some guidance and got advice from me and some help in training from a professional in her area. Now things are smoothing out nicely.
All Griffons, like people do not have the same personality. Some like Pepper take more time to mature and need more structure to help them be their best. She has turned into a lovely specimen inside and out.
Janet contacted me when she already had 2 Griffons, whom she dearly loved. She expressed an interest in having a really furry Griffon. AT Idaho Outback Griffons, I make it a point to help our clients get their match. Young 7-week-old Griffons are magical creatures, and my experienced eye will help you meet your dog goals physically and in their spot in your home.
Janet purchased Mattie Ross from me, she indeed matured with a lot of coat.
Pepper, Scout, Mattie Ross |
Pepper, Scout, Mattie Ross |
Pepper will have some siblings available soon, call me for details. 208-532-4822 or email IdahoOutback riffons@gmail.com
Tuesday, March 12, 2024
Marley
Marley Has a New Home Part 2, Read Part1 below 1st :}
So Nancy kept Marley the night and I was busy making contacts calling my short list of folks that are interested in taking on a "used" Griffon. This one, only 1 year old, was only slightly used. HA HA I use this term intentionally. Somehow it has become romanticized "Getting a rescue". It implies I don't know some higher purpose and I suppose it is. I say every ownership is a higher purpose, rescue or not, it is a challenge to do the best for yourself and your dog. What I do know is each dog comes with some baggage that needs be sorted. It is a puzzle, it takes patience, and can be rewarding and frustrating. Just because you want a rescue does not make you a match, and I worked through several candidates. I had gleaned information and I direct sourced my information from the original owners. They were very helpful and I only wish I could have been consulted prior to this crazy 3 week expedition for this young Griffon. So I contacted my good friend, Rob Stumph, who owns a six year old, Outback bred Griffon named Smokey. He seemed to me a match, and then Nancy, above, and Eric jumped in a car and Rob left as well, and they met in the middle... which really ended up the middle of the night! Rob promptly saw some Bob Marley in Boomer / Eddie and he had his forever name Marley.
It is going to take some time but I see great things in Marley's life. Rob is an active hiker, and enjoys the Griffon antics. Though Smokey has a special place in his heart both Rob and his wife felt they needed another Griffon. They kind of feel like they were needed by Marley too. Rob is an excellent dog trainer and will provide the necessary not secret recipe. Exercise, Obedience, and Love in that order
Back to Idaho
Monday, March 11, 2024
BOOMER/ EDDIE / MARLEY
This handsome fellow is Marley. I am tipping you off now this story has a happy ending. But there is a lesson here about people and dogs and life to be learned. It is important to understand the needs of any breed of dog you are considering owning. For the most part most of the people that inquire have done quite a bit more investigation than the average would be dog owner. And the original owners of Marley, then Boomer were the same. He was the husband's dream dog, and seemed perfect on paper.
I am not naïve to understanding life happens, and I did not walk in these folks shoes, so in a nutshell this was a high energy dog that did not fit their expectations. Not one time did these folks reach out to me with questions or issues. So I am here to let my owners know I am that person. I am your advocate, and I can offer solutions and in some rare cases find your Griffon a more suitable home. I have always been a straight talker and maybe that puts people off, but blunt truth is what I am best at, and I am a resource when it comes to working with Griffons.
Boomer
Back to Boomer, he was at home climbing fences, and not listening at the ripe ol' age of less than a year old. As I always say Exercise, Obedience, then Love in that order and when this balance is out of whack a young hormone driven, puppy can be quite a handful. In my humble opinion the
Trouble in Paradise
The owners lost patience and decided to find Boomer a home disregarding calling the breeder, me. Placed a common ad and got what I would consider the kind of response I would expect.... someone who mis-portrayed their situation and understanding of the needs of this little handful. He ended up in a trailer court with a frail older man, who had a 3 foot high bamboo fence in his tiny yard. Boomer, now named Eddie simply hopped the fence and being a social butterfly introduced himself to every trailer in the community. This went on for some 3 weeks.
Eddie
"Eddie" Got nabbed by the dog police eventually, but by then had captured many of the neighbors attention and affection. He was after all gregarious, fun loving, and people seeking, loved children, dog friendly, and knew commands. So Mary his first Guardian angel was contacted. She went to the shelter sprung him and returned him to older owner.
At 6:30 AM the older neighbor had Eddie in hand thrust him and his paper work at Mary and said he was too much dog for him. She lives also in the park and has 2 small dogs of her own, contacted the Wirehaired Pointing Griffon Rescue.... enter Christi Williams.
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon Rescue
Now Christi Williams partners with a few other folks and through the paperwork shuffle found my name. We were familiar with one another and she messaged me, saying one of my bred dogs was found in a shelter.
Guardian Angels
Mary at left and her mother were eagerly awaiting my call. It seems she could only contain Eddie by sitting with him in her yard. She dared not let him go, and could not bring him in the house. I scrambled and thought family...... People that will do whatever it takes for you and she has a heart of Gold and soon proved that in Spades.
Nancy and Eric
Meet my Aunt Nancy! She is the best and after a quick surmise of the situation agreed to literally leave that minute to get Eddie, a 2 hour plus drive in LA style traffic. All the while Mary patiently sat in her yard with the big ol oof. Nancy and my cousin Eric sight unseen loaded Eddie into the car, brought him home and made him comfortable.
Monday, March 4, 2024
Puppies have left Congrats to all!
And it begins in a snow storm!
Press now GUUS goes to Missouri. What fun meeting Brian and Candice.
Bravo now Jaeger will hunt Chucker in the Mountains of Idaho. So good to meet Alan and Kim!
Whirlwind is headed to the Gold Rush State California or Bust. Wonderful people, The Roberts!
Zoe gets Splash, she will live the life of a forest Ranger with her mom in Colorado Congrats Zoe.
Drive now Arthur left for WA State The Russells sweated over who to pick. Colorado bound maybe he can play with his sister.
Sky came next and what a sweet little family they have. Flynn their little boy named Lionheart, Ignatius because he loves Rock formations! Their family couldnt be cuter and so prepared for a puppy. What a pleasure. Headed to Idaho
Emily brought a photography fan club HAHA They were so fun and dwelt over their 2 choices but finally agreed on Charge the big dark headed looker. Now Bazzle lives in the big state of Montana
and finally we met a special family that hails from Washington State and South Dakota. They have the sweetest kindest puppy of the lot with Hero now named Kota, literally meeting them at the fence. Ryan it was a pleasure meeting you both.
and just like that we are done, so fun, you people are great!
Thursday, February 15, 2024
Genetics in the works
Outback's Whiplash Kristina and Chris and family have their hands full.... of a whole bunch of mischief and Love! |
Here at Idaho Outback, we are always looking towards the future. Our females are integral to our ability to produce a consistent, Griffon puppy that exhibits all the health, conformation, temperament, and bird drive we expect. Because the female gives so much to our program, we are always keeping new up and coming potential females, which enables us to retire our females young. I have a long waitlist for these choice few retired females, and those that have been recipients have loved their experience with our beloved companions.
Today I am here to talk about our lesser-known male side of our plans. I have several co-owns. These are males that live with people I trust and who believe in our breeding program. When I have a great, genetic breeding, I like to preserve my genetic options by partnering with these folks. It is easier for us to manage 1 resident male, so these lucky males go live with folks that train, love, house, and hunt with them. Breeder prospects are just that breeder prospects. Ultimately the males I choose to add to my program are perfect specimens. If they are examples of the breed that are conform and beautiful, have a joyous nature, have natural hunting instincts, and are biddable, they are then sent to the Vet clinic for health screening.
Every male will belong to the CHIC program and have a CHIC number. That alone is not enough for this program, so beyond, hips, elbows, and eye testings, we also screen for thyroid issues, look for any persistent genetic issues including allergies, teeth anomalies, chronic ear infections, or bladder issues.
The male impacts the greatest number of pups we produce because naturally it is no skin off his nose to father multiple litters in any year. Thie following pictures are images of BB. He is a JUSTICE x CHROME dog, now 3.5 years old. He has passed all the criteria to be worthy of a breeder and will be health tested. Hopefully you will see BB in the plans for 2025.
I am also including images of Whiplash, he is also a co-own a work in progress. Brave X Butte pup.
Outback's BB |
Outback's BB lives the good life between Big Sky Montana and sunny California. Thanks to Kurt for raising this Handsom fellow! |
Friday, January 5, 2024
My new prospect! Her name is Swift!
Help a girl out. I need to figure out a registered name for her. Starts with Outback's and has the name Swift in it. Ideas appreciated you can comment to the post or email me I love a name with a little sass in it. Just cant come up with anything, IdahoOutbackGriffons@gmail.com SHe is a Braveheart X ButteView female
Tuesday, January 2, 2024
Wednesday, December 27, 2023
Monday, September 18, 2023
The Golden List
The Golden List is my name for our wait list. I have used this system for quite a few years now, it isnt perfect, but I think it is fair and it reflects my values in producing the best Griffon Puppy possible and getting him into the best home possible. First off if you scroll to the very bottom of the blog you will see how to get onto the Golden List.
I take an intentionally small deposit to be added. This gives you the client some skin in the game. At first, I didnt ask for anything but I soon realized that this small deposit correlated into a much more committed and thoughtful waitlist. I also am not in a big rush to take a deposit. You do not lose your place here because pick orders are based on the original email date not the deposit date. So you are free to research other breeders before sending me money.
Once you are ready to quit worrying about getting yourself the perfect Griffon puppy, you contact me and get on the list. I take this as my job now. You will be notified of general plans, planned Breedings, confirmed pregnancies, and announcement of birth followed by a contact to see if you are ready and where you fall in the pick order. I really try hard to contact you when birth occurs, so expect a call if you do not respond to your email.
I believe the timing of getting a puppy really correlates with how well prepared you are for him, so I never penalize you for rolling your name to a later litter. That is part of the bigger picture. Also know that once you have purchased an Outback bred puppy I consider you family, a known and proven good home for a Griffon, so you will be bumped to the top of any litter behind myself and others that are also past buyers now on the waitlist. This will make the waitlist change slightly sometimes, but usually not by but a spot or so.
Growth plates and exercise.
Jethro Reed |
This link is science backed. Exactly how my mind works. It lays to rest some of the recent garbage about exercise and puppies. Common sense should prevail. https://www.mylamedog.com/post/what-is-the-logic-behind-not-exercising-puppies-until-the-growth-plates-are-closed
Wednesday, September 6, 2023
Exciting New Addition to Idaho Outback Griffons
Time marches on and we love the imprint Aux Lakes bred Idaho Outback Brown Chrome had on our Kennel. Chrome is now retired, and still going strong. We are using 2 of his daughters. Chapel and Grace, and his son Towser in our current line up. I have been searching for just the right addition to our dogs and after doing health tests I am happy to say that Butte has come to be our resident male on our little farm. Handy because he is not related to any of our girls. He wont of course be used on all the girls as there is always a plan and a match. I am happy to say we did just breed him to Brave, she will have pups out the door near the first of December. We are super excited to see these 2 should be some gorgeous hunting machines.
Butte came to us from Butte View Kennels out of Reno NV. Becky and John have been raising and showing Griffons for 30 years. Every dog I saw on their place was a lovely example of a Griffon. Butte is no exception. Exactly what I need a very harsh gorgeous coat, 53# keeping the frame smaller which I believe makes for a longer lasting field dog, moves like a dream, literally floats along, steady under noise thunder and gun shot and so far eager to please. His lineage is literally Champions or Grand Champions for 4 generations back on either side of his pedigree.
Here are my first photos of him playing with the girls. He is really cute. Also a couple of Brave that we just paired him to.
Jaegar
Anxiety Your making me Crazy
GOALS
here at Idaho Outack Griffons
My philosophy is to produce a puppyat the height of his potential. We start by carefully selecting our breeding
stock. I like to use health screened animals that gives us the best chance toproduce a healthy, long lived dog.
My second goal is to raise our dogs like ahouse hold pet as well as a hunting companion and a best freind for my boys. I
never have more than 5 dogs on the place, it is all I can bond to properly. WE Co-Own with freinds, so other dogs in our breeding program have their own family life.
All the puppies are raised off my kitchen and are handled from day one. There was a great study done by the monks who raise quality German Shepherds. They discovered techniques all of which involve early handling and human interaction. They were able to create more adjusted and
trainable adult animals. So once they begin crawling about they are underfoot, placed all day in the center of the action where even a crowd can't get ignored.
Weather permitting they are kenneled at night and taught
about grass or paper in the house. I love vari kennels they are excellent astheir den and as a tool in house training and transporting. We start introducing them at an early age to water, wings, and all sorts of exploring.
Lastly I want to retain the natural hunting abilities so all our
breeding animals hunt and are close range dogs. Though we do not participate in the local NAVDA groups these dogs would do well in that venue. This is a wonderful organization that gives you a way to test both your dogs natural abilities and your developing handling skills. AKC has some great opportunities
in confirmation but also has obedience and working dog competitions. I can't wait for someone to take one of these guys through an agility course, I think they could sweep this sort of thing, and maybe one day when my family is a little older I will try this myself. My high point is getting the right puppy to the right folks, we work so much with them we know their personalities, and make it our goal for you to know your puppy by the time he arrives.
Rose X Chrome adult snaps
Duck Rabbit... Buffalo
Buffalo Dog FOOD what the ????
I am asked
what I feed my dogs all the time. I
happen to be from the Veterinary Industry and have had the opportunity to tour
several of the manufacturers of pet food.
I have also had extensive training on a lot of assorted diet lines. You all know I am practical and have an
opinion popular or not on everything in dog world. Here are my musings.
A long LONG time
ago there was an ad campaign from Hill’s Science Diet that showed a photo of an
old leather boot a can of oil and some other assorted items I can’t remember
but I remember the image. It also showed
a pile of meat on the other side. The ad
then stated the protein and fat content of each side…. Exactly the same. Message there was clear not all ingredients
are not all the same. I also remember
another ad that asked you how much a pound meat was then asked how much per
pound dog food was in the store. Message
here what kind of meat can you expect in a pound of dog food that costs say .50
per pound as a finished product.
So that said
my dogs do not eat steak every day nor do I.
They have a unique non human digestive system that enables them to take
energy from both protein sources and vegtable sources as well of course as
vitamins and minerals. Great strides
have been taken in pet food, and many good diets contain EFAs, glucosamines, antioxidants,
natural preservatives, no food colors… etc.
LOVE IT!
But do I buy
the trendy new dog foods that are touted all natural “WILD” “Buffalo” “BLUE”
and more. They claim they have something
over the other foods available. Just
because your dogs food is made from Kangaroo meat… this does not make the
protein source more digestable or preferable.
IN fact the over use of non traditional protein sources has now made
finding a truly food allergic animal a diet they haven’t been exposed to a
nightmare. Don’t get me wrong, I could
care less if you feed duck and potato, but I don’t think there is an advantage
unless it is medically indicated because of a digestive cause, skin allergy or
the like.
I do believe
in purchasing higher quality foods, by well known manufacturers like Purina,
Iams, Hills, Royal Canin. They do their
research. They use the highest quality protein
sources…. Stuff you and I would readily eat ourselves. They are the leaders in additives that
promote health and long lividness. Don’t
forget way less excrement with a highly digestable food that leaves smaller
less smelly piles about the yard. Also a
Griff coat on a diet with adequate fats is heavy and healthy and not quite but
almost shiny. Don’t buy the cheapest
stuff you can and don’t be drug into the trendy side either. Use a large breed active blend. Or if your dog is chunky … shame on you… he
won’t live as long… get him on an over weight diet and quit feeding him the
other stuff.
Griff Humor
Parasites YUCK
Puppy Heart Murmurs
To define a heart murmur, an often used example is the vibration felt, and the subsequent sound you hear, when you pinch a garden hose between your fingers with the tap fully turned on. What is heard when listening to the heart is a slurring of the normally distinct heart sounds. This may be a continuous slurring, or it may be intermittent at the point of each beat heard.Heart murmurs are graded by intensity of sound, for instance on a scale of 1 to 6. It is not infrequent that one may hear a grade 1 or 2 heart murmurs in a 6-10 week old puppy. Often these murmurs disappear by the time the puppy is 12-18 weeks old, and are therefore termed innocent murmurs. However, murmurs with a greater intensity may mean that there is a congenital heart defect. Most grade 2 or lower will disappear by 18 weeks and the puppy will be fine with no long term or damaging effects. The puppy would be considered healthy and normal by 18 weeks. However, grade 3 usually or higher is a serious problem.cardiac ultrasound exam is by far the most effective method of evaluating heart murmurs, I'd skip things like EKGs to get the ultrasound Exam, if a choice has to be made between tests.
A puppy at 8-12 weeks with grade 1 or 2 heart murmur would be considered innocent with the sale pending a clean bill of health by 18 weeks, free of murmur, (NOW GRADE 3 OR HIGHER WOULD NOT).Because of the nature of many heart defects, their detection and classification is extremely important to any breeding program when a grade 3 or higher murmur is detected in more than 1 puppy or the whole litter has a murmur.
Griffon Humor
Submissive peeing Learn to Greet your puppy/ dog
So now you know what the behavior is now what to do with this puppy. First off acceptance and attention is what they crave. There are a couple approaches to take, 1st just like children attention whether positive or negative is sought. Yelling and scolding makes submissive peeing more like submissive flooding. So here are some stratedgies no fuss, no drama, no high voice, no dominate postures, in fact this puppy needs to realize you have no interest in him at all during greetings. The greeting period is the number 1 time this problem happens so usually once the greeting phase is over you will minimize the behavior.
First option, from now on greeting is not about seeing and paying omage to you but is focused on a food treat. The puppy is taught to stand still waiting for a treat. The focus is pulled off the submissive greeting and now focused on a task. By the time the task is performed a few times the greeting phase is over. This has to happen from all members of the family.
2nd option, ignore the puppy, from now on you give the puppy not a second glance, no greeting, no voice, no attention, let the puppy settle down, get past that time period. Only reward calm and drama free behavior. I like to encourage them to stand quietly and allow a belly rub or an upward rub on the chest. Focus the puppy on staying upright as dogs rarely pee standing up. Keep in mind you are the ALPHA WOLF help your puppy have confidence, training puppy classes, and tasks give them a purpose that helps them be the adjusted dog they can be! See my next article where we will discuss excited peeing, which is related but not the same.
Avery a GLORY Chrome pup
Liberty
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take care Brent Harrington
olen hilliard
Hi, I can't believe he's almost a year old! Here are a couple pictures of ourcurious George. He's been a terrific addition to our family, given life to ourold dog and helped me log many miles. Both on foot and by horse. He loves tohunt, loves to go in the car and generally is a great dog around all. You canactually go hunting without a gun and still get live birds :) He also looksgreat with Reindeer antlers at Christmas.!We're hoping to finish the Canine Good Citizenship exam in April. He's readyand willing. Thanks for the terrific dog and I still love the dog name. Neverchanged it... sherrill & mark
Roy Kandi Chilcott
Hi Christy,Thistle, renamed Maggie, is getting along great! She is so smart! It's a lot of work but we are getting along great with potty & kennel training. She already sits by the door when she needs to go out! Amazing! Kandi
Ben Krupka
Hi Christy,Thanks for your advice the other day. Here's some recent pics of Frieda. All between the ages of 18 and 19 weeks old.She's a dream come true!Thanks,Ben
joy gates
Hey Christy- Just wanted to wish you a Happy New Year- love to hear about the other pups from Rose's litter. Hazel is a beauty. Her eye lashes are about an inch long, she's patient, so funny and very smart! She's a lap lover, woodland explorer and I'm very sure she has springs in her toes. She hasn't quite got the catching popcorn thing down, but with practice... :) Hope you are enjoying the season. We are, in great part to your contribution!
Michele L. Turek
Hello Christy,I just want to give you an up date on Sugar or Darla as we call her. She is doing great, very healthy and smart. We have a field near our house which she loves to run and practicing pointing. She easily learned bathroom duties, come, sit and down. We are taking her to puppy class next week for more training which is a positive praise model we've been using. If you attach a "good" or say a command with a happy attitude she takes right to it.I've attached some photos of her in action, resting and her favorite "look how good I sit" mode, so you can see how she's grown.
Thanks again for a great dog ,Michele & Colin
Toni Joseph
Hi Christy,That is so weird we were just checking your site the other day to see if you bred more recently!We are IN LOVE with Wren! He is a wonderful family dog so great with our kids! Sage is 5 and Wren is not his dog, he is his "scruffy brother!"Juniper is now one and she lays on his bed and hugs him always!He is so loyal to us and really needs us in his sight at all times..He is an excellent hunter, he flushed a ton of chukar last week and we are taking him out with no kids on friday! I am planning on getting some great pics I will send some over your way!We have done a lot of camping and fun hikes this recent summer and he is so much fun, he always stays close and he really listens when we call him etc.He is very healthy just shy of 60 pounds, and he is always happy!Thanks again he has really completed our family!Brian, Toni, Sage, Juniper & Wren Joseph