Chapel and Bandit Photo shoot!
We live in the farmlands of Idaho. We are a family including 5 kids, animals, and always bird dogs. We have been owned by English Pointers, Setters and GSHs. Each earned a place in our hearts. Our ultimate bird dog would be an instinctual hunter, trainable, and mostly a great family dog and connected companion, with an easy care, low shedding coat. Now we can share our secret we found the package deal in the funny Griffon. Enjoy our pictures and stories. Christy and Elliott
Contact Us Anytime!
Home phone is 208-532-4822
Cell phone or text is 208-300-0096.
Thanks Christy and Elliott Owen
83 East 700 North Rupert, Idaho 83350
Wednesday, December 27, 2023
Monday, September 18, 2023
The Golden List
The Golden List is my name for our wait list. I have used this system for quite a few years now, it isnt perfect, but I think it is fair and it reflects my values in producing the best Griffon Puppy possible and getting him into the best home possible. First off if you scroll to the very bottom of the blog you will see how to get onto the Golden List.
I take an intentionally small deposit to be added. This gives you the client some skin in the game. At first, I didnt ask for anything but I soon realized that this small deposit correlated into a much more committed and thoughtful waitlist. I also am not in a big rush to take a deposit. You do not lose your place here because pick orders are based on the original email date not the deposit date. So you are free to research other breeders before sending me money.
Once you are ready to quit worrying about getting yourself the perfect Griffon puppy, you contact me and get on the list. I take this as my job now. You will be notified of general plans, planned Breedings, confirmed pregnancies, and announcement of birth followed by a contact to see if you are ready and where you fall in the pick order. I really try hard to contact you when birth occurs, so expect a call if you do not respond to your email.
I believe the timing of getting a puppy really correlates with how well prepared you are for him, so I never penalize you for rolling your name to a later litter. That is part of the bigger picture. Also know that once you have purchased an Outback bred puppy I consider you family, a known and proven good home for a Griffon, so you will be bumped to the top of any litter behind myself and others that are also past buyers now on the waitlist. This will make the waitlist change slightly sometimes, but usually not by but a spot or so.
Growth plates and exercise.
Jethro Reed |
This link is science backed. Exactly how my mind works. It lays to rest some of the recent garbage about exercise and puppies. Common sense should prevail. https://www.mylamedog.com/post/what-is-the-logic-behind-not-exercising-puppies-until-the-growth-plates-are-closed
Wednesday, September 6, 2023
Exciting New Addition to Idaho Outback Griffons
Time marches on and we love the imprint Aux Lakes bred Idaho Outback Brown Chrome had on our Kennel. Chrome is now retired, and still going strong. We are using 2 of his daughters. Chapel and Grace, and his son Towser in our current line up. I have been searching for just the right addition to our dogs and after doing health tests I am happy to say that Butte has come to be our resident male on our little farm. Handy because he is not related to any of our girls. He wont of course be used on all the girls as there is always a plan and a match. I am happy to say we did just breed him to Brave, she will have pups out the door near the first of December. We are super excited to see these 2 should be some gorgeous hunting machines.
Butte came to us from Butte View Kennels out of Reno NV. Becky and John have been raising and showing Griffons for 30 years. Every dog I saw on their place was a lovely example of a Griffon. Butte is no exception. Exactly what I need a very harsh gorgeous coat, 53# keeping the frame smaller which I believe makes for a longer lasting field dog, moves like a dream, literally floats along, steady under noise thunder and gun shot and so far eager to please. His lineage is literally Champions or Grand Champions for 4 generations back on either side of his pedigree.
Here are my first photos of him playing with the girls. He is really cute. Also a couple of Brave that we just paired him to.
Wednesday, August 16, 2023
Grooming tools you might need
Grooming tools: We will be discussing these tools.
SS toothed comb. I use something like this daily. Loads to select from including some ergonomic ones. I usually ending up bending a tooth then getting a new one. cheap. |
Coastal Pet Safari Dog De-Matting Comb - Dog Grooming Brush for Coarse or Long Coats - For Small and Large Dogs - One Size$13.99 on Amazon. This is nice for a long or medium coated dog, remove burrs easily or break coat up if it is matted.
Thursday, July 27, 2023
Water fun with the girls
Wednesday, July 5, 2023
Separation Anxiety
Separation Anxiety
This is a relatively common nowadays behavior that was a rarity in an older day. We have become a society that has made our pets somehow small people. Family members they are, humans, they are not. Dogs have been given status that has made them feel sometimes entitled, sometimes just unruly. Not unlike ill-mannered children, they are an unpleasant lot to be around, unhappy both in their own contentment and in their interactions with others.
Griffons have a muppet like charisma. And a sidewise glance, that makes it seem ok to indulge your little shark. But soothing every whim is a recipe for disaster. I cringe a little when I hear the term "velcro dog" Implying that is ok. This is a quality we would want in a pet. I want a connected dog. I want an interactive and independent dog. I want a dog that is happy when I am around and when I at the grocery store. So... I know you all want that dog too. So let's revisit this concept of producing a good pack member. It starts with the Pack Leader, which is you. If your Griffon wants to be in every room with you. Following you around is totally normal, but whining or scratching at the door, carrying on when restricted should be curtailed immediately. Redirect. Send the dog to her bed, kennel, yard, or chill place. Dogs, like children should be able to entertain themselves without you when they are healthy.
If you are already having separation anxiety in a classic sense where the dog carries on when it is separated from you or crated. It is very hard to stem. I suggest getting a trainer, and potentially sending her away for some time to be reprogrammed if possible. The soft nature of this breed sometimes makes owners try to solve every issue, correct every whine, never ask the puppy to be a big dog and lay down and behave.
For example, if
said puppy, were mine I would put her in a crate, where I can hear her, but for
all intensive purposes she thinks I am gone. The moment she whines.... I
would shush her.... hard. She would shush. No words of
encouragement, she has done nothing to deserve any of it. And I would
continue on like that.... even rattling her crate. or banging the top... hard
if needed. I would start crate training all over again, as if she were a
brand new puppy. I would ask her to go in and give her a treat. ask
her to come out. Ask her to go in again... and so on, lots of praise when
she happily enters or sits there waiting for a treat. . Then I would feed
her there and only there for the time being.. I would give her a toy she
loves maybe a kong I fill with peanut butter, when she goes in, and it
disappears when she goes out. The kennel must become sanctuary not
prison. I would turn off love on this dog hard.she will need to earn it
by being a quiet citizen that sits in her crate or nicely on her bed.
There I will give her some love. She will come to realize the comfort she
seeks is that crazy kennel. This is tough love... this is where you are
at. Put her in and out of that thing all the day long. Without
saying a word and never leave or do leave mix it up, pick up your keys open the
door come and go, give her a delicious tiny treat every time she goes in
. The moment she puts up a commotion she gets the alarming shushing sound
that sounds something like a hiss of an angry cat. It needs to be with
gusto. Like you actually mean it. YouTube is an
excellent resource. If you do not take this seriously and involve the
entire family she will one day eat your door, which would be a shame. I
would like to try to have her managed for a while because the
consistent correction when she carries on in the crate is key not just
sometimes or by some people. Better to have her in the yard or somewhere
until you get the crate thing worked out. She also needs to be asked to
lay by herself, if she is on your couch off if she is on your bed no
more. Christy
Wednesday, May 10, 2023
Puppy home work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1mh9yGnCh0 Biting on humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Pn6Cngb24 barking or crying..... it is not separation anxiety
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8cV2D1GGbg crate training first day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr5s3Ccj8YA puppy jumping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTBVeiXVmU Puppy jumping
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M61yN_pGJP0 potty training tips
Thursday, March 30, 2023
Accommodations when you come to get your puppy
Staying Near Rupert for a day? Places worth going....
Rupert has a charming city square, not much shopping, unless you are a quilter, but the atmosphere is nice, and it is safe here. The food options are decent.
Accommodations:
Henry's Drift Inn is the only place to stay in Historic Rupert, remodeled and full of character, just a 15-minute drive from our place. I do not believe it is dog friendly. You can always leave your charge at my place and pick him or her up on your way out of town. Many folks pick out their puppy, the evening before then get an early start to the next day, collecting their puppy on their way home http://henrysdriftinn.com/ 208-436-1300
““Competently remodeled historic bank building in downtown Rupert, ID. Spacious room, luxurious shower fixtures. Well-stocked communal pantry near guest rooms.”
If you like conventional Best Western BURLEY Idaho is roughly 30 minutes from our place. It is dog friendly. 208) 678-3501 800 N Overland Avenue Burley, Idaho 83318 1(800) 780-7234
Places to EAT Chatter Box, on the Rupert Square is great for Breakfast.
E Street Deli Sandwiches - 542 E St, Rupert, ID ...
Or have a steak at The Drift Inn right below your room.
Saturday, March 11, 2023
Lazy Lazy Lazy
I cant believe how long it has been since I last posted. But I have a bunch of things in the works. First off we are expecting 2 litters arriving within 2 weeks. Brave and Towser are bred due after March 19th and Grace and Bandit is due 4 days after on the 23rd or after. I have a healthy waitlist, but quite a few folks are waiting for later litters so it is likely pups will be available from these litters if you contact sooner than later.
Brave is the female on the right. She is our rockstar wetland bird dog. She loves water retrieves and goose blinds. SHe is appears chuck full of pups, bred to Towser, son of Chrome, Aux Lake bred for performance, conformation and personality.Grace our Chapel View female, is also having a repeat breeding with Bandit. AKC Champions on both sides of these little rockstars. SHe is not as large as Brave and may be able to help, in the event that Brave has more mouths to feed than she can handle.
Wednesday, January 4, 2023
Stripping your Griffon
This is a link to a really understandable grooming your Griffon the right way Link.
Jaegar
Anxiety Your making me Crazy
GOALS
here at Idaho Outack Griffons
My philosophy is to produce a puppyat the height of his potential. We start by carefully selecting our breeding
stock. I like to use health screened animals that gives us the best chance toproduce a healthy, long lived dog.
My second goal is to raise our dogs like ahouse hold pet as well as a hunting companion and a best freind for my boys. I
never have more than 5 dogs on the place, it is all I can bond to properly. WE Co-Own with freinds, so other dogs in our breeding program have their own family life.
All the puppies are raised off my kitchen and are handled from day one. There was a great study done by the monks who raise quality German Shepherds. They discovered techniques all of which involve early handling and human interaction. They were able to create more adjusted and
trainable adult animals. So once they begin crawling about they are underfoot, placed all day in the center of the action where even a crowd can't get ignored.
Weather permitting they are kenneled at night and taught
about grass or paper in the house. I love vari kennels they are excellent astheir den and as a tool in house training and transporting. We start introducing them at an early age to water, wings, and all sorts of exploring.
Lastly I want to retain the natural hunting abilities so all our
breeding animals hunt and are close range dogs. Though we do not participate in the local NAVDA groups these dogs would do well in that venue. This is a wonderful organization that gives you a way to test both your dogs natural abilities and your developing handling skills. AKC has some great opportunities
in confirmation but also has obedience and working dog competitions. I can't wait for someone to take one of these guys through an agility course, I think they could sweep this sort of thing, and maybe one day when my family is a little older I will try this myself. My high point is getting the right puppy to the right folks, we work so much with them we know their personalities, and make it our goal for you to know your puppy by the time he arrives.
Rose X Chrome adult snaps
Duck Rabbit... Buffalo
Buffalo Dog FOOD what the ????
I am asked
what I feed my dogs all the time. I
happen to be from the Veterinary Industry and have had the opportunity to tour
several of the manufacturers of pet food.
I have also had extensive training on a lot of assorted diet lines. You all know I am practical and have an
opinion popular or not on everything in dog world. Here are my musings.
A long LONG time
ago there was an ad campaign from Hill’s Science Diet that showed a photo of an
old leather boot a can of oil and some other assorted items I can’t remember
but I remember the image. It also showed
a pile of meat on the other side. The ad
then stated the protein and fat content of each side…. Exactly the same. Message there was clear not all ingredients
are not all the same. I also remember
another ad that asked you how much a pound meat was then asked how much per
pound dog food was in the store. Message
here what kind of meat can you expect in a pound of dog food that costs say .50
per pound as a finished product.
So that said
my dogs do not eat steak every day nor do I.
They have a unique non human digestive system that enables them to take
energy from both protein sources and vegtable sources as well of course as
vitamins and minerals. Great strides
have been taken in pet food, and many good diets contain EFAs, glucosamines, antioxidants,
natural preservatives, no food colors… etc.
LOVE IT!
But do I buy
the trendy new dog foods that are touted all natural “WILD” “Buffalo” “BLUE”
and more. They claim they have something
over the other foods available. Just
because your dogs food is made from Kangaroo meat… this does not make the
protein source more digestable or preferable.
IN fact the over use of non traditional protein sources has now made
finding a truly food allergic animal a diet they haven’t been exposed to a
nightmare. Don’t get me wrong, I could
care less if you feed duck and potato, but I don’t think there is an advantage
unless it is medically indicated because of a digestive cause, skin allergy or
the like.
I do believe
in purchasing higher quality foods, by well known manufacturers like Purina,
Iams, Hills, Royal Canin. They do their
research. They use the highest quality protein
sources…. Stuff you and I would readily eat ourselves. They are the leaders in additives that
promote health and long lividness. Don’t
forget way less excrement with a highly digestable food that leaves smaller
less smelly piles about the yard. Also a
Griff coat on a diet with adequate fats is heavy and healthy and not quite but
almost shiny. Don’t buy the cheapest
stuff you can and don’t be drug into the trendy side either. Use a large breed active blend. Or if your dog is chunky … shame on you… he
won’t live as long… get him on an over weight diet and quit feeding him the
other stuff.
Griff Humor
Parasites YUCK
Puppy Heart Murmurs
To define a heart murmur, an often used example is the vibration felt, and the subsequent sound you hear, when you pinch a garden hose between your fingers with the tap fully turned on. What is heard when listening to the heart is a slurring of the normally distinct heart sounds. This may be a continuous slurring, or it may be intermittent at the point of each beat heard.Heart murmurs are graded by intensity of sound, for instance on a scale of 1 to 6. It is not infrequent that one may hear a grade 1 or 2 heart murmurs in a 6-10 week old puppy. Often these murmurs disappear by the time the puppy is 12-18 weeks old, and are therefore termed innocent murmurs. However, murmurs with a greater intensity may mean that there is a congenital heart defect. Most grade 2 or lower will disappear by 18 weeks and the puppy will be fine with no long term or damaging effects. The puppy would be considered healthy and normal by 18 weeks. However, grade 3 usually or higher is a serious problem.cardiac ultrasound exam is by far the most effective method of evaluating heart murmurs, I'd skip things like EKGs to get the ultrasound Exam, if a choice has to be made between tests.
A puppy at 8-12 weeks with grade 1 or 2 heart murmur would be considered innocent with the sale pending a clean bill of health by 18 weeks, free of murmur, (NOW GRADE 3 OR HIGHER WOULD NOT).Because of the nature of many heart defects, their detection and classification is extremely important to any breeding program when a grade 3 or higher murmur is detected in more than 1 puppy or the whole litter has a murmur.
Griffon Humor
Submissive peeing Learn to Greet your puppy/ dog
So now you know what the behavior is now what to do with this puppy. First off acceptance and attention is what they crave. There are a couple approaches to take, 1st just like children attention whether positive or negative is sought. Yelling and scolding makes submissive peeing more like submissive flooding. So here are some stratedgies no fuss, no drama, no high voice, no dominate postures, in fact this puppy needs to realize you have no interest in him at all during greetings. The greeting period is the number 1 time this problem happens so usually once the greeting phase is over you will minimize the behavior.
First option, from now on greeting is not about seeing and paying omage to you but is focused on a food treat. The puppy is taught to stand still waiting for a treat. The focus is pulled off the submissive greeting and now focused on a task. By the time the task is performed a few times the greeting phase is over. This has to happen from all members of the family.
2nd option, ignore the puppy, from now on you give the puppy not a second glance, no greeting, no voice, no attention, let the puppy settle down, get past that time period. Only reward calm and drama free behavior. I like to encourage them to stand quietly and allow a belly rub or an upward rub on the chest. Focus the puppy on staying upright as dogs rarely pee standing up. Keep in mind you are the ALPHA WOLF help your puppy have confidence, training puppy classes, and tasks give them a purpose that helps them be the adjusted dog they can be! See my next article where we will discuss excited peeing, which is related but not the same.
Avery a GLORY Chrome pup
Liberty
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Idaho Wirehaired Griffons
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olen hilliard
Hi, I can't believe he's almost a year old! Here are a couple pictures of ourcurious George. He's been a terrific addition to our family, given life to ourold dog and helped me log many miles. Both on foot and by horse. He loves tohunt, loves to go in the car and generally is a great dog around all. You canactually go hunting without a gun and still get live birds :) He also looksgreat with Reindeer antlers at Christmas.!We're hoping to finish the Canine Good Citizenship exam in April. He's readyand willing. Thanks for the terrific dog and I still love the dog name. Neverchanged it... sherrill & mark
Roy Kandi Chilcott
Hi Christy,Thistle, renamed Maggie, is getting along great! She is so smart! It's a lot of work but we are getting along great with potty & kennel training. She already sits by the door when she needs to go out! Amazing! Kandi
Ben Krupka
Hi Christy,Thanks for your advice the other day. Here's some recent pics of Frieda. All between the ages of 18 and 19 weeks old.She's a dream come true!Thanks,Ben
joy gates
Hey Christy- Just wanted to wish you a Happy New Year- love to hear about the other pups from Rose's litter. Hazel is a beauty. Her eye lashes are about an inch long, she's patient, so funny and very smart! She's a lap lover, woodland explorer and I'm very sure she has springs in her toes. She hasn't quite got the catching popcorn thing down, but with practice... :) Hope you are enjoying the season. We are, in great part to your contribution!
Michele L. Turek
Hello Christy,I just want to give you an up date on Sugar or Darla as we call her. She is doing great, very healthy and smart. We have a field near our house which she loves to run and practicing pointing. She easily learned bathroom duties, come, sit and down. We are taking her to puppy class next week for more training which is a positive praise model we've been using. If you attach a "good" or say a command with a happy attitude she takes right to it.I've attached some photos of her in action, resting and her favorite "look how good I sit" mode, so you can see how she's grown.
Thanks again for a great dog ,Michele & Colin
Toni Joseph
Hi Christy,That is so weird we were just checking your site the other day to see if you bred more recently!We are IN LOVE with Wren! He is a wonderful family dog so great with our kids! Sage is 5 and Wren is not his dog, he is his "scruffy brother!"Juniper is now one and she lays on his bed and hugs him always!He is so loyal to us and really needs us in his sight at all times..He is an excellent hunter, he flushed a ton of chukar last week and we are taking him out with no kids on friday! I am planning on getting some great pics I will send some over your way!We have done a lot of camping and fun hikes this recent summer and he is so much fun, he always stays close and he really listens when we call him etc.He is very healthy just shy of 60 pounds, and he is always happy!Thanks again he has really completed our family!Brian, Toni, Sage, Juniper & Wren Joseph